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If you don’t know where to start, try the 1979 Joy Division session.

I think this account has been suspended.

Here is a YouTube playlist of some of the Serbian, Croatian, Slovenian, former Yugoslavian music I was listening to on the ‘Tube a few months ago.

I finally got myself a proper YouTube account, and now that I can make playlists. I was attempting to be representative of “stuff I found on YouTube apparently from aforementioned region wot I liked”

Below is a photo preview of said playlist

Been watching videos certain bands/people from the earliest to the most recent that I can find on YouTube. I’ve become fascinated, not only with certain people, but also (more?) with the differences/changes/all that stuff that one can see through time. Also seeing media and stuff change over time — interviewing styles, show formats, stuff off VHS — analogue distortions an’ that; and language habits — the use of the word “like”.

This past day or so I’ve been watching Devo related things. Here are links and some quotations too, where I could be bothered —

Devo Live at Kent State University in 1973 playing “Private Secretary”, so description sez. There’s something curious about this video. Not sure what.

This is black and white video of Devo live in 1977 playing “Mongoloid” and “Gut Feeling”.

Started watching this gig from 1980 (Petaluma, California) which I haven’t yet finished watching (just over 1 hr 15 mins long).

Mark Mothersbaugh at Subcon 1981/2 ish on Subgenius stuff. And at the end of the interview —

(8 min 38)
Interviewer What does your mother think about what you’re doing?
Mark : She just wants to know if I’m eating all right
Interviewer : Are you?
Mark : Well, I get fed every day.
Interviewer : So she’s not worried about you?
Mark : No, her brain was stolen by Christ a long time ago so she has no idea what I’m doing…”


Devo in 1981 interview with Robert Hilburn talking about the “Whip It” video —

(3 min 14)
Hillburn : Is it almost like a silent triumph… you were trying to stir people up with this thing, the fact that it did stir them up is that… in some kind of perverse way is that almost a kind of pleasure for you?”
Casale : (laughs) I suppose yes, perverse. It certainly wasn’t meant to be received in the way it has been received.


DEVO on Late Night With David Letterman, 5/3/1983 (the whole segment inc. “That’s Good” in lower quality here) Mark in this vid. reminds me of Robert (Cure) Smith ‘cept with glasses, also I noticed that he appears to have shaved armpits.

(9 min 10)
Letterman : What do you guys hope in the future, five years from now, for yourselves?
Casale : Oh you know maybe, like, make a record that sells enough that we could subject ourselves to recombinant DNA experiments or something like that.
L : Well gosh, good luck…”

(5 min16)
Casale : We do things to ourselves before other people can do them to us, kinda self-demeaning — it’s basically the Devo aesthetic.

Jerry Casale’s oral history of DEVO part 1 — description sez “Unseen interview from 1995 for rock ‘n roll history television documentary” not sure how many parts there are to this doc., I’ve not watched them all yet. On becoming politicised, doing performance art, forming Devo.
Part 2 — on not being punk, making the videos, “being smart and appearing stupid”

Devo playing Gut Feeling/Slap Your Mammy 1996 Irvine Meadows California

Mark Mothersbaugh in 2005 on getting spectacles and being able to see clearly for the first time, becoming a visual artist, meeting Jerry Casale, starting Devo. Mentions the student shootings in 1970 that Casale talks about (in the oral history link above).

An Interview with Devo from 2009 (?) —
On Brian Eno (producer of the first Devo album)

(1 min 58)
Mark : He had a very fatherly approach to the whole thing, he could have been a jerk and he wasn’t. He was very empathetic to five crazy guys from Akron Ohio that really…
Bob Casale: Had their minds set on something.
Mark : Yeah, and he kind of gave us the ability to do it. He empowered us by taking us to Germany and putting us up in a studio when we didn’t have a record deal.
Interviewer : So are you gonna work with him on the new album?
Bob C : He hasn’t called
Mark : You know, he’s a funny guy. I had a conversation with David Byrne about him. David said, ‘you know, I worked with him (Brian) a number of times, but I gotta tell you, if he doesn’t have a specific need to talk to you he hides from you and he doesn’t take my calls, he won’t talk to me.’ So I didn’t feel so bad then.


Inside DEVO’s Studio with Mark Mothersbaugh in 2010 Instruments, synths, circuit bent stuff. More vids on this page. Mark sez he uses Logic (software).

Mark Mothersbaugh interviewed at the 2011 BMI Film & Television Awards
after talking about the composing work he’s been doing with Wes Anderson and other film and TV music talks about what else he’s been up to —

(0 min 40)
Mark: I don’t know if you know, I have a band and we put an album out last year, so I’ve been touring some and finding out how shocking it is to go out on stage for like 3 or 4 weeks in a row every night compared to when you’re 20; it’s different when you’re 20. Honestly, it kinda sucks. I like the part where you’re on stage, but the rest of the day is such a waste cos you’re being corralled into airplanes and then into cars and then backstage and then you’re waiting to do a show. And then you do a show for 90 mins and the rest of your day is a waste…”

(2 min 40)
Mark : It’s kinda weird to find yourself to be an elder statesman in pop music…”


I watched more stuff than this. And there’s even more that I could have watched, but by then I had a headache.

'Scuse typos, mis-linked links 'n whatever.

An abruptly ending tune I made on the Robert Moog Birthday Google doodle yesterday.

I remember, vaguely, years ago reading some quote from Kurt Cobain saying writing that Smells Like Teen Spirit was an attempt to "rip off" a Pixies song (Debaser, I had thought, but I can’t find a reference to it)

Some months ago I noted in this video (above), at about 1min 15s, Bernard Butler talks about writing Animal Nitrate and says
“inspiration at the time was totally secretly, Smells Like Teen Spirit”.

That is all.

I’ve put a couple more songs on Bandcamp today — You Belong, Mouse

Both songs have the “Be My Baby” drumbeat in them (I first noticed this lovely rhythm in The Jesus and Mary Chain’s “Just Like Honey”).

The “You Belong, Mouse” title is cuz part of the song goes (something like) “you belong miles from anywhere” (“miles” could be “mouse”) I just gave the song a name today, it was previously called “suede” using the name the file after the first band that you can think of method. It has bass and guitar, and instead of mouse clicking I actually played the midi keyboard to input notes. I’m getting into this playing of instruments lark. I realised after I’d begun that it sounds a bit like the Slowdive song When The Sun Hits.

"Boulevard" comes from me trying to play bass along to Phil Spector type songs. It sounds like a slowed down Monster Mash. It’s all recorded (except the MIDI percussion) bass, guitar, voice which I’m not used to doing so it’s sounds strange and messy. I recorded some of the bass by holding the mic behind its body, there’s a bit where you can hear my mother asking “are you nearly finished?”, which I left in, it’s looped so shows up a few times. Title cos I was thinking of Sunset Boulevard for some reason (a film I haven’t seen.)

Also am uploading them to my audioboo.

I have been making more songs; here are 4 I put on Bandcamp as a sort of EP, as they feel related.
I like these songs so much. They’re kinda scrappy, I’ve realised I like lo-fi sounds and that the lo-fi ness is not only cos of my lack of skillz. There were times that things became too shiny sounding which I did not like, and undid.

I’ve had the songs hanging around for a while, growing slowly like little plants. They have many vocal layers, sometimes I think the sound of my voice is the main thing going for my making of music. I’ve managed to come up with some album art too. I’m still using the same set up, just my voice and Logic MIDI instruments and am not even using the computer keyboard to input MIDI notes, I’m just using mouse clicks. I’m rubbish at playing instruments, some mental block situation I’ve not figured out yet.

"Falling In Line" is the first track, it has bell sounds (I like resonant metallic sounds) and the lyrics consist of "falling in line again" and oohs and aahs with punchy overamplified drum sounds underneath. It sounds somewhat like the way I’ve been feeling over the Winter period. I called it "falling in line" cos at the time I thought it sounded as though I was singing "falling in love again", which — just no.

"Remains" is the oldest song, a little bit shoegazy, I had stuff like this Demontré - Lorenheim in my head at the time and was listening to things that had that large hazy sound going on. It has an actual instrument on it (bass guitar) tho it’s not very obvious. The title is cos it was taken from part of anther song I had been messing with — the remainder of another thing.

"Lush (Ordinary Day)" is prob. the catchiest one, lots of layers of voice. Me trying to sing the chorus as tho I were Amy Winehouse kept causing microphone clipping cos I’m still using the Blue snowflake mic . The title is from my time of naming files by the first band that came into my head.

"Sherbet" is the short one at the end, also the most recently made; feels a bit similar to the opening song. Yes it is supposed to sound as tho I’m half asleep here. The title is cos I was trying to make a song that was kind of bubblegummy/lethargic and I had been reading about sherbet on Wikipedia. I’m not sure that the song is bubblegummy tho.

Bandcamp asks you to put in lyrics, but I still haven’t decided what they are or whether to make up words as an approximation of the sounds/put in all the variations of things I was singing/don’t put down any lyrics.

The songs are also on audioboo, here

I feel there have been many typos.

Yes, another song. I began this a few weeks ago and thought add more bits to it, but I don’t think more bits were required.

I had been messing with this 8/16 bit tracker thing Milkytracker in an attempt to make some kinda tune, but I find it challenging to make anything decent with it so, I didn’t/haven’t yet. The song has a video game feel to it. Somewhat.

I see this post isn’t going anywhere, so I’ll stop now.

link to song page

Another song. I am still learning the ways of Logic Pro 7 and other music related stuff.
Of those that I’ve made, this song is one of my favourites so far. I haven’t made anything that is kinda danc-y before, I don’t think.

The title “X It Down” is cos most of the song I was singing … it down; I can’t really remember what (“Burn it down, tear it down, let me down, hand me down” that kind of thing), I was making it up as I went along. And also in the chorus the words alternated between things like
“Don’t sit how you would”, “dancing hollywood” etc.
but I think the second line is definitely
“You’re going on, you’ve got a goat on”, tho it sounds at time like “you’ve got it going on”.

I suppose the reason I’m going on about the words is that I feel somewhat as though I’m not doing things in a legitimate fashion, just making things up. I have tried coming up with lyrics pre song and hasn’t worked so far.

As an aside, it”s the first time ever really noticed the effects of mp3 compression.

And I have to point out this song that I heard a few days ago for the first time. Kap Bambino - New Breath

Anyway, I am now returning to hibernation.

Link to audioboo page is here

This week I have been noodling with Logic Pro 7 again, and made another song while trying to figure out how the software functions, and trying to use it with some competence. I’m not sure how I’m doing. Vacillating between “Ooh I’m getting the hang of this” and “Can you imagine what a producer would think — the horror”.

And as often, there aren’t any words in the song, though in singing sounds over and again words begin to emerge, “November Dancehall” (the song’s name) is a phrase that could be in the lyrics, were there any.

It’s guitarless, cos I can’t be arsed to play guitars, too much effort. I use the computer keyboard MIDI input thing to “play” notes, either that or I add/move notes using the mouse. I have a MIDI keyboard, but I can’t be arsed to use that, are you sensing the emerging theme?

The image below is of this Caps Lock activated, onscreen MIDI controller thing. You can also see that the working title of my song was “Ner ner ner” — I’m not good with naming things.

I’ve other songs at, I seem to be building a list of music stuffs I made.

I tried to keep a note of every song that “played” in my mind throughout one day (while awake). I only noted songs that hung around for more than two minutes or so. I might have missed some as I don’t always notice them. Some songs recurred, but I only noted each song once.

__ Saturday 00:00

Pop Muzik — M
City Of Angels — The Distillers
Beat Your Heart Out — The Distillers
Trash — The Whip
My Puppet Pal —Tiger
A Fond Farewell — Elliot Smith
Laura — Scissor Sisters
Time Tunnel Cellar — Tiger
Calcutta — The Names
Tick Tick Boom —The Hives
Hollaback Girl — Gwen Stefani
Milkshake — Kelis
Would I Lie To You — Charles And Eddie
Drain The Blood — The Distillers
Metal Guru — T-Rex
Isobel — Bjork
Close Your Eyes (‘Xxx’ Mix)— Acen
Beverly Hills — Weezer

__ 10:00, I went to sleep

__ 14:00, I woke up

Little Boys Blue — Kinky Machine
Call Me Names — Echobelly
Gooseberry Fool — Kinky Machine
B Is For Brutus — The Hives
Antidote — The Hives
The Bends — Radiohead
Myxomatosis — Radiohead

__ 18:00 Fell asleep again and didn’t wake up till about 03:00 the next day (i.e. Sunday).


Just re-read the above. It sounds terse. Am I usually terse? I don’t know.

A cover, a whole song this time. Recorded with a microphone “live” as it were ( I mean not multitracked asynchronously). I’m singing and playing bass — at the same time. I’ve been trying to get the hang of it.

The song is “Eisley Vs The Mountain” by Mos Eisley, (to which I can’t find a link so’s you can hear the original.) I could upload it but I shan’t; being cautious.

It’s been normalised and I snipped a few seconds off the start (from before playing began); apart from that I’ve not altered it. Not all the words are correct. I doubt I’ll get the “quality”* of the bass playing will match the singing anytime soon/ever.

*I put the word quality in inverted commas cos I’m kinda one of those “everything’s subjective/relative/specific” types, them wot most people seem to loathe.

I tried to make a song about something cute, I don’t usually write songs *about* things. This is supposed to be about the idea of a sleepy cat. I had a vague tune some weeks ago.

I gave up halfway, cuz I assembled this “song” with Logic 7, struggled. Didn’t play the bass well and now can’t re-record it cos my guitar to line-in thing not work now (time for a soundcard I think). Had enuff. But I still like what is there. Kinda.

I spent most of yesterday playing my guitar and bass, in the making up of songs (I’m not very good at playing guitars, but I enjoy it). I have at last acquired an adapter thing, so I can plug the guitar into the line-in audio thing on my Mac.

I spent far too many hours doing this playing of the guitar; now am tired. Hours after I put the guitars down, I’m still thinking of songs, and trying to move bits around, add bits, change this or that section etc. I can’t relax or rest.

I have a habit of turing a very fun thing into a horrible chore and pain. There’s this compulsion to continue, that something awful will happen if I stop. This usually leads to me becoming ill. I can’t say “OK enough, finished for now”. Running away from a thing only to find you’ve run headlong into it. Cos it’s not out there at all, really, so attempting to flee is kinda silly.


Rang Urban Splash for summat apartment related. The hold music was This Charming Man by The Smiths.

I wonder what kind of PRS/PPL/royalty system/whateva they have for that kind of thing.